FJ Cruisers of Northern California

Battle lost But the Wars still goes on!!! Carnegie is closing

http://cyclenews.com/articles/industry-news/2009/12/15/state-park-g...

Check this out.
This is what can and will happen to all trial access in all of Cali unless we all pay attention what is going on all around us....

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Permalink Reply by TOE 4X4 on December 15, 2009 at 2:17pm

Bummer, this impacts all of us. Please help keep our parks and trails open.

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Permalink Reply by Sonof40 on December 15, 2009 at 2:19pm

Wow. Ignorance at work again.

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Permalink Reply by Boss73 on December 15, 2009 at 3:34pm

This closing has been headed up by the same person who has problems with off roading anywhere in cali. I forget her name, well some come to mind but I wil be kind, I know she had and EX husband who use to wheel, and now I guess she want to make sure that he cannot wheel anywhere..
This kind of stuff really sucks because the park has been doing a bunch of work with the run off and showing areas that have been allowed to re-grow.. This decision was made by a liberal judge in Alameda county so the results may have been different..

This is two places in just about three years that have been closed. First it was Clear Creek, now its Carnegie, who knows what it wil be tomorrow...

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Permalink Reply by Bz on December 15, 2009 at 4:53pm

Karen Schambach
capeer@peer.org
peer
Let her know what you think

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Permalink Reply by Boss73 on December 15, 2009 at 6:38pm

Thanks BZ..

For those who want to write a letter, I am all for it but remember to keep it clear and clean. Name calling will not get you very far and do nothing but add ammo to her fight.. Having said that I encourage everyone to write a letter and get involved..

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Permalink Reply by CA Annie on December 18, 2009 at 8:49am

Thanks for the address. I'm always civil :)

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Permalink Reply by 2007fj on December 15, 2009 at 5:03pm

What the heck's next ? 1st it was noise pollution and now water quality on a dry river bed ?
Wish I knew the answers.

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Permalink Reply by Boss73 on December 15, 2009 at 6:43pm

Me too. I believe their claim is that the water will eventually get to the delta, even though its only a creek for 4-6 weeks a year, It filters through the ground to a aquifer first (at least this is what I have been told)..

But the one thing I do know is they (enviros) will use every angle in the book to get the state to see it their way.

Believe it or not there are lawyers that specialize in water..

Which is a good thing in this state. I am sure they have lots of business

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Permalink Reply by bkreece on December 18, 2009 at 6:50pm

Interesting that they blame carnegie for the heavy metals found in the run off, when there are two companies testing explosives in that area...

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Permalink Reply by Boss73 on December 18, 2009 at 7:10pm

Yes it is.. I guess they will try every angle until they get a win..

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Permalink Reply by David on December 15, 2009 at 8:48pm

I don't think writing a letter to someone who has a grudge against offroading will do anything. She'll probably just ignore it.

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Permalink Reply by CA Annie on December 18, 2009 at 8:50am

Boss, what was the name of that organization that was fighting against this with their own lawyers?

You had mentioned one way to help was to support this group with Member$hip $?

Thanks!