Opinions on two sets of Tire/Rim combos and if they will rub with no lift..

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Permalink Reply by Rodriguez on July 7, 2011 at 7:55am

I have a 2007 with the Rockstar rims on 33" nitto mud grapplers and I had to put in a 3" lift. If not they would of rubbed for sure, hope this helps. 

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Permalink Reply by GRM on July 7, 2011 at 11:47am

No. 

 

And the rockstars absolutely suck if you try to take the truck on a trail (scratch easy, and look bad with scratches) 

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Permalink Reply by Rodriguez on July 7, 2011 at 11:48am

Scratches never hurt nobody !

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Permalink Reply by PRS TiFJ on July 7, 2011 at 11:50am

Regardless of the rim / backspacing,  33" tires will require some trimming even with a 3" lift  and pretty much forget about it with no lift.

 

If your short on cash and just want to get the rims and tires going I have a spacer lift you can have for free. The front spacers are a little rough so you might want to spend a few bucks and get new ones $60,  they could be reused if absolutely necessary and i can help you install for free if you come out to Roseville.

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Permalink Reply by Rodriguez on July 7, 2011 at 11:51am

Small trim in front but not much.

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Permalink Reply by Shaman Rawb on July 7, 2011 at 6:29pm

What size tires do you recommend for 18" rims, probably nitto trail grapplers, without lifting? I don't want it to look stupid when I do lift 3" though.
Appreciate the input. May buy this weekend.

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Permalink Reply by DWH on July 7, 2011 at 6:40pm

I have to ask, why 18" wheels? You will be able to air down more, get more grip and have a more comfortable ride with smaller wheels. Something to ponder if you plan on wheeling much.

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Permalink Reply by Shaman Rawb on July 7, 2011 at 7:10pm

Well, I do way more street driving than offroading, and I really like the look of the 20's. I figure the 18's are my happy medium for looks and functionality.

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Permalink Reply by Estysalinas on July 8, 2011 at 7:17am

I would ask the same question...which i find myself doing to often to DWHs posts.... so stop it! :-P

 

If you are just starting off your FJ you really need to ask yourself what you want to do with it over the long term. If you are just going to be hitting the snow with it then you could do something like your thinking about.

 

My advice would be to stay with 16s or 17s, generally speaking more rubber is better. I guess it looks cool with the 18s (i'm a little on the conservative side) but the first time you take this thing of road your probably going to be regretting your decisions for several reasons:

1. Scratch, a bigger rim will get much more scratched up (on or off road)

2. Pinch flats are much more likely to occur when you air down as there is less actual space between the rubber and the rim

3. Traction - the reason you see big tires and smaller rims is because most people air down when they go off road, by airing down you leverage the pliability of your tire to increase the contact patch (surface area where the tire meets the dirt) thus reducing the amount of weight at any one particular area of dirt and generally increasing traction (not to mention your tire conforms better to rocks and give a much smoother ride off road) A 16 or a 17 inch tire has plenty of room to handle that, step it up to an 18 or 20 inch and all of sudden you have no room for that tire to flex. 

4. Big blings scream steal me

5. Last but not least, airing down reduces the impact to soils and the off road environment.

 

Bottom line...if your objective is to never go on anything greater then a fire road that can be done with a 2wd honda civic, get the 18s or the 20s. 

 

If you are even considering running more difficult trails like you see a lot of folks here doing, consider 16s or 17s and get more meat (My FJ isn't a vegetarian). Spend the extra money you saved on some better tires :-).

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Permalink Reply by Estysalinas on July 8, 2011 at 7:38am

I apparently wrote more so consider that my 3 cents....

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Permalink Reply by DWH on July 8, 2011 at 12:29pm

I'd give you 4 cents for that one.

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Permalink Reply by Shaman Rawb on July 8, 2011 at 7:55am

Hey esty, thank you for your input. Keep it coming!
Heres my thoughts on 18's.
I am currently running stock 17's with 265's. If you look at my Barney Riley pics, you can see what I picture as my most extreme off roading. The car did beautifully. If I bump ip to an 18, and put 285-305's on it, then I am still gaining a substantial amount of tire over what I have already.
Agreed? If I missed something let me know.
Thanks, R

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