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I'm going to keep you guys informed here.
Here are my previous posts from the blue room together. Updates will come as replies.
02-28-2013, 11:52 AM
Going in Tuesday for my second TOB repair. At 50k now. I told him all about the forum info. They have seen me too many times and he is a pretty cool rep, so I'm hoping he's goes a little beyond the TSB to keep me from coming back. Especially since I'll be at 60k in no time. I'll pin him down for something in my history stating that if it comes back after 60k, that it should be covered. Ugh.
03-06-2013, 10:37 PM
Well, got my car back. They didn't replace the TOB. It was squeaking, which is why I brought it in.
Here is the text directly from the service record:
"Confirmed customer complaint. Found when clutch depressed there is a squeaking sound. Opened TAS case and informed toyota of concern and was advised to lube diaphragm and recheck.
When clutch is pressed noise goes away.
As per TAS, lubed diaphragm with grease. Started vehicle and no more squeak is heard when clutch is depressed or pressed. Test drove vehicle again and found while driving squeak came back. Called TAS again and was told to remove transmission and inspect. Removed Transmission. Inspected throw out bearing and fork. and found pivot ball rusted and has lack of lubrication. Was advised to clean up rust and apply grease. Cleaned rust and applied grease. Reinstalled transmission and test drove and found no more squeak when driving. Pivot ball not accessible with transmission in for lube. Drove vehicle ten miles and no squeak coming from transmission at this time."
03-07-2013, 10:21 AM
Hey guys,
I'm not too concerned at this time. First, they already replaced my TOB per the TSB about 20k ago. Second, the squeak is gone, and the shifts seem smoother and tighter (placebo?). Third, this, and the original is all documented, and even though I'm at 50k, I've been assured, on record, by two different reps, that if anything else remotely related to the TOB occurs, they'll take care of it. Fourth, I think this counts as strike 2 against my 4 strikes lemon law? Not the most important part, but something to consider.
So yeah, the squeak is gone, but I'm keeping a close eye/ear on it. If anything happens, it's going back, and it's only 10 minutes from my house, and if they keep it overnight, free rental car.
I'm satisfied, at this time.
03-09-2013, 08:50 AM
So no surprise here.
Woke up yesterday morning to head to Tahoe. Noise is back. Called my rep (who was out the day I got my car back), and his first words were, 'I figured you'd be back'. He read the report and was himself disgusted with what went down. He said he's never taking a day off again, and I have to say, the first time I went to this dealer, I was given the rep that stood in for him, I never went back to him. Found a great rep, and never went to anyone else until he left the company. My new rep is his replacement, and although this situation is unfortunate, he has always been on top of things and stays in contact. I would never go to this other guy again (Eli-Dublin Toy). It's not that he's not friendly, I just found he would forget to call me, give me incorrect info, and then be like, oops, and just not 'get the job done'.
Anyways, he said pulling the tranny and doing NOTHING, was ridiculous. Told me to bring it in Monday, they'd give me a rental, and he's not letting it leave the dealer until he's positive that it is fixed.
I'll keep you posted.
03-13-2013, 10:51 AM
Ok,
So I took it back yesterday morning. They called Toyota (I know we talked some **** about 'how come they needed to call Toy? You have to realize they have already done the TSB already, and it has the 'updated part', so on their end, without reading forums, they want to dot their I's, and cross their T's by including corporate in all their records). Toyota had them dismantle it again, I think they lubed it again, and then this morning, (they kept it) the squeak came back. Now they are measuring the diaphragm, or something. My rep said he called in the regional engineer, and will keep escalating it until it is truly fixed. He is hoping, and expectant, he said, that my car might be the one to cause a serious review and revision of the throwout bearing TSB to include any additional changes they make now.
I'll have more info later today, or tomorrow and keep you updated. FYI, this is Dublin Toyota in CA.
-R
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New revelation.
So I've noticed how unbelievably smooth the car shifts and drives now. Wondered why. Then I noticed that before, and since I got it, over 3k RPM, it just seemed, weird. Like too high, like I shouldn't be going that high (for those of you who don't have a manual, we redline at 5,500 RPM). If I was climbing a grade, on like the freeway, I would go to about 3,100 and feel like I had to shift, and then not have much torque in the next gear (mostly 3rd to 4th).
Now I figured it out.
Vibration. It was very slightly vibrating. The .07mm difference in the clutch assembly height was causing a noticeable vibration at over 3k RPM. I called my rep today and he agreed that it makes perfect sense. The factory must have had a bad run of those parts, and we all got them.
Now I can take it to 4-4,500 (if necessary) RPM and it feels great. Smooth. I have the torque I have always felt was missing.
So just and FYI to you manual drivers, even if there's no squeak, if this sounds familiar, take it in. Mention the vibration. Refer to my case if need be. Have them measure it.
:)
Wow glad the rep got it all taken care of for you and stood behind you. Sounds remarkably like the clutch issue i had with my subaru WRX.
Mine is making a squeak sound but I thought it to be the slave cylinder where the rod press's against the tob lever. ?? I adjusted the clutch peddle and it has gone away.
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